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7 thoughts on “Do We Need Longer Passwords?

  1. Thank you very much… I have been programming in PHP/MySQL for about 6 years and while I understood what “To Do” and “Not To Do”, I can honestly say I didn’t get the hashing until I read this article and a similar article you wrote. Very helpful.

  2. We don’t need longer passwords, we just need more complex ones. The ones that they are brute forcing over there are most likely lists of common passwords that people use or common words created into passwords.

    I use a 10 character hexadecimal for most of my websites, of which has never been able to get brute forced or guessed. And I use a 24 character hexadecimal for my wireless network. :P

    • ‘Complex’ passwords are resistant to dictionary attacks. A brute force attack is comprehensive with regard to its character set. The article I refer to doesn’t explicitly refer to the set of characters used in the attack, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it were completely comprehensive. Because of this even complex passwords are vulnerable.

      With regard to using hex values as passwords, you can represent just over a trillion distinct values with 10 hex digits. It sounds like a lot but it really isn’t. If you include upper and lower case letters in your hex string (22 instead of 16 possible values for each character) that number jumps to 26 trillion (2.65 * 10^13). For passwords that can contain any upper case letter, lower case letter, or digit that number (62 values) that number becomes about 8.39 * 10^17 (for 10 characters).

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  4. ha ha :D The longer passwords are just to confuse the guy over your shoulder, watching you type it in with one finger, right? I like what you said about not using the same password for everything, it is good to reinforce the idea.

    Thank you.

  5. Nice article; it always surprises me how many largish websites take little notice of password hashing.

    As a rule of thumb I believe that if a website can provide you (when you reset your password) with your old password, odds are the password is not secured in there database and that website should be avoided.